My commute was anywhere from 45 minutes to 1 hr 30 mins. One thing I love about my bike commute is that the timing is very dependable regardless of traffic or conditions. Id take a 30 minute drive over a 15 minute bus ride. The average commute in the UK is around 59 minutes per day (both ways combined). If it looked awful to go home, I just wouldnt. Or if you live in suburbs with poor public transit and no BART access (or cant afford BART over bus fare). Right now Im at about 45-50 minutes depending on metro waits. I get defensive about it: I think long commutes being interpreted as the norm give LA a bad name. That was a trade off I was willing to take. The freeway systems are less well planned than LA/OC/SD and require many many more lane changes. At my last job, I had also had a ten minute commute on foot. But I did get sick of the commute & moved closer in so I only now have a 30 min commute. It would be completely intolerable. Two deer and two totaled cars in less than a year. I think its a record. Mine is about 10 minutes in the worst traffic, but that is because I live in a tiny little town. If it doesnt work or he says no, I think looking for another job or moving closer is the next step. It takes longer by bus from Hoboken or Secaucus to my office.). Intolerable. If I take the bus, its 40-45 minutes, but far less stressful (and I always get a seat because of where I live). Source: I grew up in LA, have lived here nearly my entire life, and am currently working here. If I drive, it takes 45 minutes or more. Alternately, you could do the South Bay (San Pedro/Palos Verde/Torrence/Manhattan Beach). Haha! Yeah that is the thing for me. 2) Find evening activities in the area you work Infrequent trains that are rarely on schedule, over-populated stops that take 2-3x as long waiting for people who dont fit to step off. Much better. I have a ten minute commute. Then I wait for the bus and ride 25-30 minutes (2.3 3 miles). Traffic IS horrendous, and many, MANY people commute 2 or more hours to work. Ultimately I think the question for you is not whats normal for your region, but what feels doable and sustainable for you in the long-term. LW I understand your struggle. A word of warning about looking for jobs within 10 miles of Long Beach. If I take the subway (and there are no delays), my commute is about 35-40 minutes. Yeah, I dont think Id ever be able to go back to a commute over 30 minutes. What is ridiculous to me is that commuting 6 miles on SF MUNI trains regularly takes 75 -90 min. Some folks could handle this and would be fine, and others are not okay with this sort of commute. True. Many of my coworkers who live in LA (and also many in New York) work from home often. It sounds like you cant, either. im moving from just north of the city to queen anne in a few weeks, my 1+hr bus ride will turn into a 20 minute walk to work. my team planned a wine-tasting while Im pregnant, no one is paying attention to my training, and more, coworker sent me his racy photography page, do I need to give my coworkers gifts, and more. I think thats what trapped me into taking the job. To be fair, being ok with a 4 hr commute doesnt mean they dont value their lives & people in it. Loads of people have to do that daily, so twice a week is piece of piss. I think a long commute driving wears on you much much more than,say, public transit where you can work on other things. Fun fact, I used to work with that guy at his previous job. I dont want to get into trouble rolling through the wrong area because of an app trying to save me time. Im job searching and having a hard time applying for companies that would put me in a car for longer than that or a bus for more than an hour. I hate the job but the commute is simply perfect. Huh. My bf and I have been talking about buying his fathers house in OC (and I love OC and love living in a suburban area after growing up in a big city, and living in big cities all my life and now living in a very residential area). The only thing that would slow me down was if the drawbridge was up (Seriously, a drawbridge on a major freeway). Here I am cranky because my new job means I cant walk to work anymore. Two of my friends are going to a different uni, which is russell group also, but it is 3 hours away and i wouldn't be able to live at home. 2 hours commute during rush hour in LA is completely normal. Long Beach is SO much nicer. Reearch isnt reality. Your boyfriends in the right on this one. Even if the boyfriend or other people find it acceptable, they really dont have to give up trying to find another solution. once you get west of downtown LA), the worse it gets as well. My prefferred way south was always PCH. Ive always had a long commute, until moving a couple of years ago cut my commute down to 20 minutes and going remote a few months ago cut it down to nothing. This one doesn't sound like it is. So, not unheard of & it happens in all parts of the country, but definitely terrible. Honestly, the only person I knew who ever commute that far was an intern from a college town a couple hours away (and that shocked me that hed do that each day). I hope that will be the case for you too. It really doesnt matter whether I leave at 7 am or at 9 am it takes just as long to get in every day. After that job, I had a commute of 1.5 hours each way and it was the main reason I quit. ), have you considered Metrolink? I am applying for university and my firm choice is 1.5-2 hours away depending on traffic. Currently, I commute from my village to Northumbria University, this being an hour commute via local bus services. The alternatives are to a) get a job closer to home, or b) get a home closer to work. I live in L.A. and both my husband and my commutes are 35-50 min. (Also no left turns! If I were you I would make sure you keep the appropriate . Good luck, and I feel your pain! Lots of people can handle that, but I cannot. My max is 1 hour. It might take a little more effort to work it out, but it absolutely can be done. Im in DFW, and on off-peak hours, its 35 mins from home to work. It was a cost of living/housing/real estate thing at the time. Yes, this. I agree w/ Alison whether its normal or not has no bearing on whether it works for *you*. Get More TikTok Followers Tip 2: Use SidesMedia Another great option for gaining more TikTok followers is to use the services provided by SidesMedia. I live in The New Forest and work in London which is a 2 hour drive and I sometimes do it twice a week. That is going 11 miles. Yeah, not only would a drive like that mess with my mental health, I would not be able to take it physically either. each way. Im pretty sure I could walk three miles in an hour. The answer to your letter is that you and your boyfriend are both righta 2-hour commute is normal, if on the extreme end of normal, and its also exhausting and bad for your health and nobody would think you were being unrealistic if you gave that as a reason for looking for a new job. So cal born and raised here! Two hours feels like more than I could stand as a daily thing even with audiobooks, but I really cant recommend audiobooks (and podcasts) enough for relieving the stress of commuting to work. What matters is youre miserable, so you should look elsewhere. I live on the east coast, and the stories I hear about LA traffic are enough to make me want to stay on this side of the country forever. It sounds like OP is out by Montebello Gardens or Monterey Park and driving through or into DTLA, Burbank, Pasadena or the west side. In Southern California, the weather is great, the traffic not so much ;~(. Homelessness is a big issue on the Metro. 8.67 miles/hour. Its really hard not to see the possibilities lurking around every corner. It can be done! If you give more specifics about where youre at I might be able to recommend areas that make sense to job hunt! 14 minutes of it. I live in the OC near Chapman Uni and my office was in the Union Bank building on Figueroa Street and yes, 2 hours was totally normal. By bus (three buses total) it takes an hour. Parts of California are very affordable just not the parts near a major city. Has nobody mentioned the total amazingness that is this stats website? Until the position currently hold, I was lucky to have 20-30 minute commutes. *Avoid Baxter Street in Echo Park its crazy steep. Check out Port of Los Angeles jobs international shipping companies might like your language skills. Maybe just for a week to try it out and see how you feel. East Bay, Walnut Creek, Concord, Tri-Valley area to San Jose/Peninsula is easily 2 hours. As someone who just put an offer at $80,000 over asking on house that would be 5 mins from my partners work, I feel personally attacked, yet so validated, by this equation. from where you live? Living in San Francisco has skewed so much my sense of whats expensive that my first reaction to you saying this was Only $2000?!. I am also a native Southern Californian, and while I wouldnt go so far as to say 2 hours is completely normal, it is not at *all* unusual. Car pool to share the annoyance of the road. The New Englanders are so so so jealous of your weather! (But the solution is to drive off peak because there isnt really a public transit option thats any faster than driving during rush hour.). Folks drive at the limit or (more often) 10-15 miles over limit when theres room to do so. Direct shot down the 405 (I checked driving times through the Sepulveda Pass every day one week and it went from 45 minutes to 3 hours, because of CA drivers. Commute time depends largely on when I leave: if I leave home at 6:30 am, it takes 30 minutes; if I leave at 7:30 am, it takes 45 minutes, and if I leave at 8:30, it takes an hour or more. And now I am a champion road trip driver and change my sense of how far is far to go. if I wanted to sleep. It is working for us because most of the commute is on public transit. Because normal does NOT equal ok. Hosted by people who live in SoCal. This is making me really glad my wife and I decided to avoid the Bay and Silicon Valley, between commutes and housing cost. Now lets imagine 1000 cars: the delay for the last car 2000 seconds if theres any stoppage whatsoever. My commute is currently about 10 minutes and doesnt involve a freeway. Thats the primary reason why I left Seattle. Id stomach 60 mins if most of it was by train. Total game changer to get that much time of your life back even though my rent cost was about $400/month more. This kind of commute sounds incredibly draining! Most years, five of the 10 busiest freeways in the world are on southern California. Now luckily I have flexibility, otherwise theres no way I could make this work. You literally picked the third worst commute in LA. :(. Most of of commute by car during typical rush-hour traffic is that helps. Most of my coworkers that live on the North/South Shore of Boston commute around that far. I wouldnt take a 2+ hours commute either and have actually rejected or self selected out of jobs that would put me in that range (and I dont drive but exclusively use public transportation). That seems like it would probably be the best solution in this case, given that you seem to be pretty happy with where you live otherwise. You really need to decide whether that is how you want to spend your life. You also have a long day, on top of the commute. Then I took a job in Culver City my commute was 45 min-1 hr each way every day, but only 20 min with no traffic! I went on a business trip to Charlotte one day and we had to drive to the airport during rush hour and I was freaking out wed be late based on my experience with Houston rush hour traffic. But thats my opinion, and others may disagree. Thats ridiculous, seriously thats 20 hours a week driving. However, I tremendously benefit from going reverse commute. We travel(led) a lot for work, and that kind of journey would be a routine length once per week in normal times. Train itself is about 1:25. Its also better for the environment and limits your cars exposure to CA freeway road hazards, because we all know theyre not very well maintained and CA drivers can be Irrational. I grew up in CoCoCounty (fam is still there), and so much of the County was working class that I never really thought of it as unaffordable until the last 10-15 years or so. Ive been trying to reclaim my commute time and think of it as time to recharge, listen to a podcast or audiobook, basically just enjoy myself as much as possible while sitting still staring at taillights. I could tell so many stories about the times where out-of-towners (friends, relatives, etc) think I can get them from Silverlake to the coast in 30 mins because it doesnt look that far on Google Maps!. The LW is well within their reason to search for another job or another place to live. My commute is about 20-30 minutes, including a daycare dropoff. That said, the days where the commute gets over 1 hour are tough, and I definitely couldnt do that twice a day. It means that you basically live to work during the week. The only good thing was that I had a lot of time to listen to podcasts and audiobooks. It was horrible. I also paid for more data on my mobile, so I can use Spotify and Netflix. Back then, it was a Big Deal for us to go to the Big City for shopping, dining, etc. AZ for the win. I would also make the argument that the significant amount of truck traffic driven from the port adds a considerable amount they have to go slower in traffic since it takes them longer to stop. Yeah, no, I would consider 2 hours each way to be completely unsustainable. They ended up going with the one on the east side of town because my dad realized during his practice commutes (which were the same distance and traffic time) that coming from the east side meant he never had to drive into the sun. Biking takes me 23-28 minutes every single time. If youre having trouble visualizing this, check out the old Mythbusters episode where they tested it. Some days its longer. Having more/less freeway time, more/less surface street time, time of day youre coming and going, whether youre traveling with or against the bulk of traffic in the areas youre in makes a HUGE difference. Our population has outpaced transit infrastructure loading, LA did not invest in public transit earlier, and theres an effective moratorium on building more freeways on the west side and in City of LA (and its adjoining communities). Okay so I live in Orange County and accepted a job based in Santa Monica with the intention of moving to there/west LA, only to find out the apartments in my budget were either dumps, in a bad area, or both. Sounds like where I live when you get off the interstate. Its a parking lot because theres too many cars taking up physical space for there to even be room to drive at the limit. (The other big difference is that NYC is built on ground well suited to subways, where LA is built on geologically unstable, wet sand. But Ive done the 90-minute standing each way commute too. Still, commute times in all peer metros have worsened and the Bay Area now falls in the middle of the pack. But depending on your field it is just something we sadly have to deal with. I live in West LA about 5 minutes (on a good day) from my office (but I take the bus so its a little bit longer). Everyone is different and your sanity should not be taken up by a commute if it does drive you crazy. I wonder if this person is being a little wistful about about their time in new york, too? It was so, so good for my physical and mental well being. I previously lived in Shoreline, the town immediately north of Seattle. I got a new job and now my commute is 15 minutes. Anangsha Alammyan. Most of the people I know live pretty far away from their workplaces here because thats just the nature of average wages and cost of living. When I switched schedules to a 5am 1:30pm shift, my commute was a much more palatable 45 mins. Good luck finding aomething that works better for you! It is normal for some places. Walking (due to rain or bike injury) takes me about 20-25 minutes. If theres an accident or bad weather Im looking at two hours or more. Because I guarantee you that 30 min is not an average commute for 30 miles ANYWHERE in LA at rush hour. I think its worse now. (Not that it needs to be made to sound worse, but there may be a grass-is-greener situation happening where they think about their old life). 710 is usually fine. I used to commute to San Francisco from Redwood City and even taking the express train and express bus to the financial district and back it still took me 2 2 1/2 hours per day (twenty minutes of that was driving the one mile home from the train station), and I thought that was a lot. So i aggressively researched traffic patterns when I picked which neighborhoods to live in. Always awful unless I did seriously shifted hours. I started shooting out my resume last week and immediately hooked a few fish, so Im a lot less worried now. I hope to return to say more about LA traffic and choosing your jobs based on commute (which can include commuter buses, light rail, and number of alternate driving routes available), but the short version is: dont let your boyfriends acceptance of a long commute pressure you into accepting something that you find exhausting and/or sou-killing. Even here in Denver, where I now live, the population boom has been so dramatic that the traffic is starting to look like L.A. at rush hour. Also, are there no public transport options at all where you live? If its a Friday in the summer, or before a long weekend, it can even be less than an hour. Maybe in the Friday Open Thread? Weve got kids and paying 2k+/month for a 2 bed apartment anywhere within 45 minutes wasnt happening. Traffic is bad-and others certainly do have commutes that long-but a more reasonable one is possible. OP cant expect her commute to go from 2 hours to 15 minutes because the boyfriend has told her that isnt normal, but she can make reasonable decisions now on how to cut the commute down to a more acceptable hour or hour and a half. The commute was just too long and there was no guarantee it was limited to just once or twice a week. Whats better spending 2 hours on the bus, or 1 hour in the car and 1 extra hour at work? I moved to the city, and it went down to 15 minutes. Alisons absolutely right whats acceptable to you is what matters, not what your boyfriend considers acceptable. Weve considered moving closer. No. Used to be hell (25 km in 1.5h, yay for bridges and never ending roadwork, sometimes 2h-2h30 for the 1st snow, or 1st snow after a 2 week spring people tend to forget how to drive in winter conditions in the spring, crazyness) but I changed jobs 5 years ago for one 5 km away. Now I am lucky to work 9 miles and 15 minutes from home and I love it. BEST COMMUTE EVER! If there was bad traffic, bad weather, etc. Its the travel at either side of the train journey train is about 1/2 hour, but 20-30 min bus on either end + waiting for connections. The Bay has faster commutes than SoCal, in part because theres more commuter rails and theres more carpooling and carpool incentives). You should really consider relocating to be closer if its the job you like or finding something closer to where you live. Im originally from a town that had $600 2 bedroom townhouses just 2 years ago. Regarding the latter, I suggest watching cgpgreys video on traffic. All my other commutes have been around 30 mins. The worst might have been a twenty minute commute that required three different trains, travelling in a U shape. For this area, its the cost of housing that drives people to live further away from the metro areas and creates those long commutes. Fullerton, Anaheim, Irvine and Santa Ana have Amtrak and metrolink as well as freeways. (In a perfect world where there were adequate sidewalks, I was in good enough physical health, etc. I live in Silicon Valley. I live right in the heart of Los Angeles. Not a thing I could do about it. It doesnt really matter what your boyfriend thinks is normal if thats simply unsustainable for you. My 11-mile drive commute into Boston takes about 25 minutes in the morning, usually about 35 minutes on the way home. I live/work in northern VA (just south of DC), and traffic is notoriously bad here, as well, though not as bad as in LA. Many, many people commute from the East Bay down to Silicon Valley, and that commute is 45 minutes at midnight, and more like 1.5 or even 2 hours in bad traffic. And then there is the increased wear and tear on your car and the associated costs. I often fantasize about either getting a job closer to my home or getting an apartment closer to my work. My commute is 7 minutes from door to door. I would look for another job, OPjust because a lot of people are willing to accept it doesnt mean its right for you. I know its somewhat stupid but yeah. If I had to commute in and out of NY 5 days a week, theres no way I could handle it, so I feel you OP. LA is opening new rail lines more frequently, so you might have a solution come up soon. There is one (1) single freeway to get from the east side to the west side. Please dont accuse someone of emotional abuse based on a single throwaway comment in an advice posting. But to alleviate his stress levels, its worth it to us to move to a location that will shorten and ease his commute. If other people want to live like that, thats fine, but I did not. Haha sorry, I meant the personally attacked part as a joke. by train: 1 hour with no transfers/switches LA does have public transportation systems, HOV lanes and toll roads to help ease traffic, but they are really inefficient, inadequate and expensive as you get further away into the suburbs so there isnt a big incentive for people to use them. I did OC to LA (~45 mi) for 5 years. :(. I have been at my job longer, and have more flexibility, so I end up working 7.5 hour days when I go into the office 2 days a week (I have a 1-1.25 hour commute each way), and 9.5 hour days when I work from home. Long Beach to West Hollywood seems absolutely insane to me (WeHo is bad enough on its own traffic-wise without the added commute). He commuted from Chester County to Manhattan by train. Granted my commute is about an hour each way, but I spend none of that actually behind the wheel of a car so I could spend it doing any number of useful and/or interesting things so I dont mind it so much. 30 miles is very far for LA commuters. Luckily she was a low key kid who enjoyed listening to music. Drive to bus station. Plus I saved so much money not driving and just listened to music and enjoyed my coffee. (None of this is easy in LA, but its the only solution for long-term happiness.) Were in Texas, but right now my partners commute by transit is 2 hours each way so I take him in the mornings, which makes the commute for him 30 minutes but easily 70-90 minutes for me round trip, plus my own 10 minute commute to work. http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-lopez-echo-park-traffic-20180404-story.html. Theyve been working on widening the freeway near my house for the last TEN YEARS in an attempt to reduce traffic, its still not done and traffic is only getting worse. Hahaha what? Thats all you need to know. I took the position with the long commute thinking that my stint there would advance my career. The last time I was in Eastern Cali was going to Reno during Obamas first run and Prop 8Ive never wanted out of somewhere so bad and I was just passing through. Normal can die in a fire. Blue line to red line, and then ride share or bus would also work. Pretty manageable. It once took me 3 hours to drive the 15 miles from west LA to Torrance. The miserable part was just being completely uncertain on a day-to-day basis what it would be until Im actually out there on the road. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. When I was a kid my grandpa had a ranch in Mariposa, and Merced was the closest city (and it was a boondocks city back then!). I dont live in LA, but I visit frequently and have close friends who do live there. It beats everything but the three years I worked from home. Some are cut out for it. So commutes are very reasonable. I counted myself lucky, I had friends with commutes of 1-2 hours each way because of the limited options for affordable housing. can I get my coworker to stop using awful corporate jargon? I live in Southern MD and commute to College Parkco-sign everything you said! Public transportation, except for BART (and even BART), is not fast in the Bay Area. Perhaps you should take your own advice about making unwarranted assumptions? Say you didnt realize the reality of LA traffic and your current situation is not sustainable in the longterm, and what makes sense from here? I had to drive to the train, take a 1h10m train ride, then transfer to the subway to my office. 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